How to hack a marathon if you aren’t a runner.

by Andrew Gertig on January 25, 2011

[UPDATE: Please do not take this post as a recommendation for you to try to do what we did. Thanks, hope you enjoy!]

A few years ago I ran the San Francisco marathon without training and finished it in 4 hours and 28 minutes. Most people don’t believe me when I tell them I did this, then when they do they then start thinking I’m an idiot. I did do it, and maybe. The part of the story that I don’t normally share is that my friend Tyson also ran the marathon that day and finished in around 5 and 1/2 hours. To me his run, though an hour longer, is probably more impressive of a feat.

Everything started on a Tuesday evening in Livermore, CA where Tyson and I were both working as interns at LLNL. We were shooting pool with 2 other interns and one of them mentioned that he was going to run the San Francisco marathon that coming Sunday. I am not sure if there is a possible logical chain of events between his comment and the point that Tyson and I were registering for the marathon and buying running shoes at the Expo the day before it, but it happened. What was logical was that Tyson (now a nuclear physicist) and I decided that we needed a plan for how to finish the marathon. This is where Tyson’s story gets more impressive. As we started hashing things out we started by discussing our current levels of physical fitness and how far we had ever run before. Tyson had always been more into playing music than sports, so when he told me that he didn’t think that he had ever run for more than a mile before it gave me only a moments pause. This is when I actually started to feel confident because I played intramural soccer in college, was trying to run 2 miles a day to recover from a cut achilles tendon, and had once gone for a three mile run. After all we were two smart young guys, so who needs to have run longer than a mile before when you are about to run 26.2 miles. Not us.

So we talked with our marathoning buddy who had tricked us into this somehow and we came up with a plan. How to hack a marathon:

  1. Don’t plan on running the whole thing
  2. Take 4 Advil an hour before the race (Not recommended by physicians, but it’s what we did.)
  3. Take a walking break at every mile marker
  4. Eat half a banana whenever you see one
  5. Take two waters at ever water station
  6. Eat no more than 3 Gu energy packs because our stomachs didn’t like them
  7. Take bathroom breaks
  8. Walk every hill
  9. Meet interesting people and use conversation to kill the pain
  10. Put bandaids on your nipples to prevent bleeding

Because I felt as though I was in pretty good shape I decided that I would run the first 4 miles at a little slower than a 10 minute pace and then start my plan of walking for 2 mins or less at every mile marker. I mostly stuck to the plan and finished with a pace of 10:14/mile. Tyson also stuck to his regimen and we both got our medals.

That day I learned a valuable lesson, that just because something seems hard and you don’t feel prepared does not mean that you can’t do it.

Now go run a marathon.

[UPDATE: Thanks to Arvin Dang at LifeHacker for writing this post.]

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  • Dd

    Very impressive, but how did you feel a few days after the marathon?

  • http://andrewgertig.com Andrew Gertig

    My legs were definitely super sore for the next few days!

  • Marathoner

    You can’t really hack a marathon. Done 9 of ‘em.

    However, your advice is very close to what I would give a first-timer. I would add load up on carbs and water a few days before, and at a minimum do some cardio full time 3x a week for a month beforehand to toughen your feet, body, and mind. Otherwise, congrats, and good luck on your next marathon!

  • http://andrewgertig.com Andrew Gertig

    That is great advice.

  • http://www.tachophobia.com RacerRick

    I jumped into one once. But I had running shoes at least! I finished but it hurt.

    I’ll add some thoughts…

    Vaseline everywhere

    reduce sugar consumption the days before

    drink more water than you could ever imagine for 72 hours before, then quit 3 hours before the start and then drink again at the start

  • http://andrewgertig.com Andrew Gertig

    Vaseline is definitely helpful, especially under the armpits. I made the mistake of wearing a cotton t-shirt. Rookie move.

  • http://www.tachophobia.com RacerRick

    It’s definitely impressive that you pulled it off.

    I would have loved to see the shoe salesman’s face when you told him you needed shoes for the marathon.

  • http://andrewgertig.com Andrew Gertig

    Haha! Yep, it was rather funny!

  • http://www.callmekung.com/ Brian Kung

    THERE IS HOPE!

    Marathon in 3 months, wish me luck!

  • http://twitter.com/TimInman Tim Inman

    I love this because though I can’t imagine putting myself through the pain of training for a marathon, I can about imagine trying a stunt like this.

  • Roger

    Although I do admire your enthusiasm for doing a marathon, I can’t help but feel that it’s a bit stupid. The REAL aim is to do a marathon in half decent time that you can say “oh yeah, I gave it my all during it”. What’s the point in doing it if it’s not your best and hardest effort?

  • Clint Laskowski

    Or simply use the Jeff Galloway plan (see http://www.jeffgalloway.com). Walk a minute, run a minute; for the whole 26.2 miles. Better yet, join a Galloway Training Programs in your area. Lots of fun.

  • http://andrewgertig.com Andrew Gertig

    I got to meet Jeff Galloway a year or so after running this marathon, I am a big believer now in his method, especially after accidentally kinda doing it.

  • Any

    Taking 4 Advil before the race is a good way to really hide the pain when you injure yourself and cause permanent damage. As any long term long distance running will tell you, pain is your friend, it lets you know when something is wrong.

  • http://www.justgiving.com Tal Wolgroch

    Great post Andrew. I’m JustGiving’s Community Manager and would love to syndicate this post to our own blog. We have 7,500+ London Marathon runners who have created fundraising pages and would love marathon training and coping tips, as well as amusing stories like this! Are you happy for me to do this?

  • http://andrewgertig.com Andrew Gertig

    Sure Tal, you are welcome to syndicate this post. I hope your readers enjoy
    it.

  • Anonymous

    Be aware of water intoxication. Plenty of water is important but you can force yourself to drink too much.

    “Marathon runners are susceptible to water intoxication if they drink too much while running. This is caused when sodium levels drop below 135 mmol/L when athletes consume large amounts of fluid”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

    Getting dehydrated will slow you down and knock you out of the race, really overdoing the water has killed people in marathons as well as silly radio contests.

    As long as you’re peeing clear, you’re not dehydrated. And listen to your body, sometimes when it tells you you’re doing something that is bad for you, it’s right.

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  • Idlesoul

    hahaha. bait. i have a tiny lil 28 mile hike to blue mntn peak and back that needs hacking. i think you may be slightly familiar with it. great article. great approach.

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  • Somar

    Add “practice/training” to your valuable lesson; legs will not be super sore or at least not for days.

    Training->Take pain early and often

  • JJ

    “walk every hill”

    Really?

  • http://blog.dp.cx dp

    Does the first time have to be your best and hardest effort?

  • Colleen

    Taking ibuprofen before strenuous exercise is a good way to damage your kidneys: http://www.active.com/nutrition/Articles/Ibuprofen_for_training_and_racing.htm

  • ML

    Side note: ahh good old LLNL. Grandpa worked there as nuclear scientist in the 80s/90s.

    Now have you done any marathons since? Sorry if I duplicated post, didn’t read the other posts. :D

  • http://andrewgertig.com Andrew Gertig

    Oh yes good old LLNL, I really enjoyed my time there. No I have not done a
    full marathon since. I have done a few Half-Marathons though, and I
    definitely trained for those. Also a number of 5Ks etc. Really addicting.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BNMRQJN5DBEVEGLPQQQM2ARWKU Konrad

    I m running for 3 years now got rid of 30kg and I wouldnt advise anyone to do this thing, maybe only if he/she wants to be unable to walk for next 2 days

  • Q335r49

    Congratulations, but this mentality has to be taken with a grain of salt … whenever I play sports, I always get annoyed at the people who do something just to win — even if the victory is a personal one rather than a competitive one. Sure, you only learn by doing, but what’s great about sports is the paradoxical “learn by oneself, only by doing, but only from others”. If you learn how to get by somebody in soccer, learn to shift you weight, fake you opponent, etc., then you are learning by doing, but also, you start to understand what makes a soccer move great, the kind of factors their capitalizing on, etc. Things that you wouldn’t recognize from a “goal-oriented” activity (get by the person).

    So, my critique of hacking is that it is “goal oriented”, ends-based, and that it doesn’t recognized the paradoxical “learning by oneself from others” of athleticism. Instead of the self, other, and world/nature, hacking tends to reduces everything to the self and the nature. Yes, there is a certain “rugged frontier mentality” to it, but the very notion of “learning through hacking” is, for me, oxymoronic. So, congratulations, and good job, but let me just remind people that this activity is not really “athletic”, but more… anecdotal. Which is probably what you were going for, anyways. :-)

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  • http://andrewgertig.com Andrew Gertig

    I agree, and yes, meant to be more anecdotal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mullet-Reeve/100000516994402 Mullet Reeve

    IMNSHO, anyone who can go 26 miles WITHOUT giving their “hardest” effort has earned the right to do it any way they damn well please!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mullet-Reeve/100000516994402 Mullet Reeve

    How old were you at the time? And previous injuries?

    A 10min pace, especially if you are walking every hill, is still pretty damn fast for most people, even people who train. I’d have a hard time believing you didn’t have genetic and or prior conditioning factors that allowed you to perform at that level. Hacked or not, that’s pretty impressive, and I’m inclined to believe if you actually trained, you could probably be elite or very advanced.

  • http://andrewgertig.com Andrew Gertig

    I was 22 and in really great shape. I had an accident 10 months prior to the
    race where my right Achilles tendon was severed most of the way through.
    Once I was done with my physical therapy I worked harder than ever to get
    into shape and was running 2 miles everyday at an almost sub 6 minute pace
    before I ran the marathon. This is all probably pertinent to the story, but
    didn’t want to make the post too long. :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6GSFWDS3ADGHVRYHRGBKHC5H4A The watcher

    Great job. As an avid runner I think it’s fabulous that you took this challange. I think there are many jealous runners. Maybe they feel threatened. They shouldn’t.

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  • http://twitter.com/Professionals Professionals

    So many critics. I reckon good for you guys! I did the same thing a few years ago and was a mess the next day, but after a few day rest was as good as before the event – better, because I knew I could run a marathon.

    The body likes being comfortable, sometimes it hurts because it doesn’t like what you are doing, not necessarily because it is bad for you.

  • http://twitter.com/red_trousers redtrousers

    So many critics.

    I reckon good on you guys. I did the same thing a couple of years ago (with less pain killers though lol) and after a few days rest was fine.

    The body likes feeling comfortable. Sometimes it hurts because it doesn’t like it, not necessarily because it is doing damage.

  • JonDuntan

    Running 2 miles everyday at almost sub 6 minutes would definitely be pertinent to the story I think.
    From the original article, I had the impression that the only running experience was some running you did during college for soccer.

  • Tcam

    IMO, sports aren’t fun if your not trying to win with everything you’ve got. Dick Butkus style…

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  • Dave Neary

    Lots of good advice for casual marathon runners. Even when running 3:20 pace I walked across every aid station & drank most of a cup of water. Nipple rash can be avoided with vaseline & better running tops (advisable anyway) and walking regularly will definitely get you to the end. People forget that you can walk a mile in 15 minutes.

    I have to agree with others that taking advil before the race was not the best idea. 1g of paracetamol before the race and some ibuprofen after the race would probably be my suggestion.

    Dave.

  • boisejack

    I would not be too proud of 4.5 and 5 hour marathons.

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  • http://www.investingwithoptions.com/ steveplace

    pfft 2 valium after mile 4 and you’re golden

  • http://twitter.com/RyanCritchett Ryan Critchett

    This is awesome! I think I’ll go run a marathon!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Diane-LovesEgypt-Dreyfus/621990122 Diane LovesEgypt Dreyfus

    10-11 minute miles are not too shabby

  • http://twitter.com/metabolicmemory Jon Pearlstone

    been there, done that–but Napa is a lot harder than San Francisco and I finished in 4:27!!
    http://metabolicmemory.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/napa-marathon-completed-wonly-5-training-runs/

  • http://www.sethigherstandards.com Ravisraman

    Congrats! This is quite the strategy and taking walk breaks frequently can absolutely extend the distance you can run beyond what you think is possible.

  • http://www.sethigherstandards.com Ravisraman

    Congrats! This is quite the strategy and taking walk breaks frequently can absolutely extend the distance you can run beyond what you think is possible.

  • Anonymous

    we don’t even know the condition you were in before, like how regular were your excercises and your physical condition. This is a hack that worked on your particular body type and condition. It isn’t saying much more.

  • Jeniferbridge

    I’d be bl**dy ecstatic! lol

  • http://lastdropofink.co.uk/ Matthew Ogborne

    “Put bandaids on your nipples to prevent bleeding”

    Anyone else owning up to learning this the hard way?

  • ShirlGirl

    The effort is to be commended. And it’s tougher to run slower and longer than faster and getting it over with.

  • ShirlGirl

    Wonder how they were smart enough to know this before learning about it the hard way? Most folks don’t realize….

  • ShirlGirl

    I found half marathons just as challenging as the full ones — and recovery was much faster. Love half marathons.

  • ShirlGirl

    Especially if there is heat.

  • http://twitter.com/JMilesTaylor Jeremiah Taylor

    I wish there was a dislike button for your weak statement. 4 Advil ain’t nothin, you pussy cat.

    Re: Taking 4 Advil before the race is a good way to really hide the pain when you injure yourself and cause permanent damage. As any long term long distance running will tell you, pain is your friend, it lets you know when something is wrong.

  • http://twitter.com/JMilesTaylor Jeremiah Taylor

    Ya’ll are weak willed, worry warts. If I listened to you, I’d still be a limping weakling crippled by cerebral palsy. Take a gander at this guy: http://bit.ly/CYoung
    You do realize there are harder drugs, and people live through doing copious amounts of insane drugs while staying awake for days at a time? The minor risks of running a marathon on Advil are simply that, minor.
    Can I please play competitive sports against you for money? Please?

  • http://twitter.com/JMilesTaylor Jeremiah Taylor

    Are you an idiot, or simply being insulting? I’d like to know, because doing that for someone who’s never ran moree than three miles is a huge deal. Get Boise out of your name, you’re making Idaho look bad.

  • Rob-paige

    This is one of the worst pieces of information I have ever read. It is incredibly irresponsible to even attempt something like this, not to mention disrespect to the event, other runners and organizers. People have died during marathons because of poor preparation. It is not something to take lightly.

  • Jax502

    I’m glad you at least put a DISCLAIMER at the beginning of this article. I’m glad to hear you guys did it and survived, but it’s a risk I’m not willing to take. Taking 4 Advils or any type of NSAID before such activity can increase the risk of kidney damage. My wife works at a kidney dialysis clinic and I just feel bad for people who have to go through it.

    Were you able to walk normally the next day after the race? I think that’s one of the difference I noticed between people who trained vs. people who didn’t train. The ones who trained recover quickly and also had a lower risk of getting injury such as stress fractures. I applaud you for being brave but if you’re trying to run a marathon just for the sake of doing it, then you’re missing the fun part of it: The Training. The race itself is just icing on the cake. The real challenge is in the training.

  • WT

    Take electrolye pills, then.

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    Great Article!

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  • Dg12

    Advil??? Are you just plain stupid? why not just put a bandaid on your 1/2 banana?

  • GW13

    This is great, well done Andrew… Lots of critics out there!! While marathoning is a grueling physical task; in the end its mostly mental.

  • Are you serious

    this is pathetic

  • jimmyrunner

    How does one disrespect an event by completing it? Maybe if someone with no training can jump in and do one out of the blue, just finishing it isn’t really that impressive after all?

  • jimmyrunner

    I’ve never understood that logic. Is a 4:55 marathon harder than a 5:00 marathon, or is the 5:00 marathon harder because you’re out there just a little longer? How about 4:40 and 5:00? 4:30 and 5:00?

    At what magic point does improved performance go from harder to easier? I understand that just being out there is difficult, but I think slower runners overestimate how little difference running shorter makes when you’re at a maximal effort.

    In track, the 800 is considered harder than the 3k, because even though it’s shorter, it’s more intense, at a maximal effort. Shorter =/= easier.

  • jimmyrunner

    I think the whole point of this article is that just because something seems impossible, or is hard to do, doesn’t mean most people can’t do it, and it therefore earns you little (though taking the step to go out and actually do it, is impressive from the mental standpoint of overcoming the perception of the marathon).

    I’m always exponentially more impressed that someone chose to try a marathon, considering the mystique we’ve attached to it, than to the actual running of the distance.

  • guest

    This really shows how cheap the accomplishment of running a marathon can be. Just think if you were able to do this without any training, where is the pride in being able to say “I ran a marathon”. I think that way to many people these days chase after the glory of just finishing a marathon no matter what the time. Sure it’s more difficult than what you would do on your average Sunday, but by just deciding three days before that you are going to walk/run a marathon, it really takes away from the glory. Yeah, there is a lot of mental determination, but show me someone who has worked months on end to run sub 3 hours or qualify for Boston, that’s who I have the respect for.

  • JimmyMac

    For someone who never trained that is impressive. I would not go as far as to say you could be an elite runner as someone else suggested. You need a lot more than ability (not sure you have that either based on this alone) to be an elite runner.

  • Dynamichispanic

    they didnt run a marathon they walked/jogged a marathon, not impressive…and furthermore a mockery to this sport…as an elite runner, i do have respect for the everyday joe attempting to take on the beast that is a marathon…but that implies these joes are not taking the marathon or any race for that matter as a joke…the idea of a race is to push your body to its physical limits… that takes training and dedication, everyone has different limits, forget these two guys for taking a strike at the purity of human performance in athletics(running)

  • http://andrewgertig.com Andrew Gertig

    I think what you meant to say was that your idea of participating in a
    marathon should be everyone else’s idea of it as well.
    “taking a strike at the purity of human performance”, ouch!

  • Fastrunner161

    I don’t get it? You didn’t RUN a marathon. You walked…a lot. The rest was a jog. All you did was complete 26.2 miles. I know people who do that every weekend when shopping in a mall….seriously!

  • http://andrewgertig.com Andrew Gertig

    Do you think that Jeff Galloway refers to what he does as “completing” a
    marathon or do you think he calls it “running” a marathon? I’m sorry I
    offended your sensibility of semantics.

  • Diggylowe

    to all the haters, there is nothing wrong with deconstructing a challenge and making it easy. All of the original marathoners in ancient greco times took walk breaks. And taking anti-inflammatories will help prevent injuries more likely than hide them. The human body, when not fat and sickly, is an amazing tool and can do more than most people think. Go ahead, keep complaining and see where that gets you.

  • Fastrunner161

    I stand corrected….you Gallowalked. My bad…LOL.

  • Fastrunner161

    I stand corrected….you Gallowalked. My bad…LOL.

  • Seriously?

    You think people walk over 26 miles when they’re shopping in a mall?

  • Linnea

    Congrats on the marathon. I’m surprised you were so sore though. I did this same thing except I had been running about once a week, a few miles max, for a couple weeks, so I had much less training. Stairs were a little sore the next day but after that I had no soreness. I attribute it to a daily ice bath in epsom salt afterwards. Sure my time was 5+ hours but my friends with better times couldn’t walk for a week. I only walked one minute after every 10. Almost anyone who can walk can complete a marathon. The body is made for running. I wholeheartedly agree that the whole point was to do something that seemed impossible. I was 27 and had only completed a half marathon distance the year before.

  • MommyOh

    Um, no you don’t.

  • Purpleannex

    4hrs 28, no training, bullshit.

  • http://www.sherizzle71.wordpress.com Sheree

    I completely agree with you in some respects, but you also cannot discount the amount of effort most people who DON’T qualify put into training as well. I am out there every Saturday doing my long runs in blizzard weather, every morning too. And just because I can’t run 7 minute miles doesn’t make my accomplishment any less than someone who qualifies. Gee, it would be nice to qualify someday. But as someone who used to weigh 220 lbs, I find that the mere fact that I am doing this is an amazing feat in and of itself.

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  • Liesbetjie

    Awesome Sheree!! I recently started running myself and I’ll be doing my first 5k in a month. For me THAT in itself is a HUGE accomplishment. Some people are naturals and others aren’t. ANYONE who can finish a marathon, whether in time or not, deserves a medal!

  • http://twitter.com/nalinali nali mikely

    I agree with you Jim Runner…kinda.
    I have run the 800, mile, 2 mile, 5k, 10k, half-marathon, and marathon and EACH has it’s drawbacks and easy points…..but every race has a point that is the “tough spot”
    800-halfway into the 2nd lap
    mile-3rd lap
    2 mile-5th/6th lap
    5k-the 800 before the last 800
    10k- the mile before the last mile
    half-marathon – the last point whatever (in my case, 0.6 of a mile)
    Marathon- I am training for now, but i’ve heard it is at the 20

    All of them are hard and require different muscles

  • http://twitter.com/nalinali nali mikely

    You are not “hacking” the marathon….you are jogging it.
    The only reason you could get those times is because you are guys.

    Good job, but not everyone can do this.
    Don’t feel like you are a runner because you are not, you are walkers.

    Have a good day.

  • Dan

    Very well said!

  • Brendan

     Thanks so much! I was so inspired by this article that I ran the Colfax marathon in Denver and finished with a 4:46. 

  • http://andrewgertig.com Andrew Gertig

    That is awesome Brendan, thank you very much for sharing that!

  • lib23

    as a physician I want to warn you, dont take advil or ibuprofen before running or you will kill your kidneys, If you must, take tylenol. Ibuprofen contricts the blood vessels leading to the kidneys and with modest dehydration you run the risk of renal failure. No its not an exaggeration….

  • gfu

    26 might be an exaggeration but some people do close to that, moron.  Our local mall is 1.1 miles around.  If you stop and walk around every store even if there are 40 stores with 300ft worth of stepping in each (not hard to achieve 300 ft worth of stepping) that’s 12,000 ft (2.3mi) and if the people do 3-4 malls (and some do) that’s easily 10miles.  

    That isn’t even factoring in people shopping in NYC.  240ft or so per block, if they walk 25 blocks (most walk more than that) in a shopping day they’ve walked more than a mile and that’s not considering walking around stores (which are huge).  Plus that factors in a straight walk down all blocks (not going to happen) so you’ll be doing zig zagging and weaving between different streets and instead of heading e/w you’ll start n/s for a while.  In then end, I wouldn’t be surprised if you did 30mi!  

    In the end, considering that most people walk 3mph or so when shopping if they shop for 6 hours they will, in the simplest terms, have walked 18miles.  This is still not 26 and it’s not accurate but I’m sure there are people that have done more.

  • Dan Brubaker

    I have a somewhat similar story, but I jogged (10:20/mile with 10:00/mile goal) a half marathon that some army buddies of mine were rucking through. They talked me into it 2 weeks before, which is no time for prep. These things are just mental games. You have to tell yourself that you’re going to finish, and that’s all there is to it. I didn’t do the ibuprofen though, just a half dose of Immodium AD the night before, and another half dose in the morning to keep from getting the runner’s runs (I can have a cranky stomach sometimes, so I don’t know if you’d want to add that to your hack). I don’t really plan on running any full marathons, but the half marathon that I did run I’d like to do again. Interesting article!

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  • Guesty

    The average person walks between 2 and 3 mph.  If someone were actually browsing the items in a store, they’d probably be averaging 2mph, tops.  That would require 13 hours of walking (say from 9 in the morning to 10 at night, nonstop).  People who stop to actually look through the racks, look in the mirror, wait in line to pay, etc. are probably averaging 1mph, which would put them at 26 hours.  So for our 30 mile estimate, they must be:

    - Walking 3mph (a fast walk) constantly for almost 9 hours without stopping.
    - Walking 2mph (a leisurely pace) constantly for over 13 hours without stopping.
    - Jogging/Sprinting (6-9mph) from store to store and then stopping to shop for a total of 5-9 hours.
    - Walking, shopping, eating, etc. (average 1mph) for 26 hours.

  • http://50-is-the-new-30.blogspot.com Paul Rodman

    Wow some people get really hot under the collar about this posting. 

    Perhaps you left some things out of your list:

    1) be really young.
    2) be lucky that your biomechanics and connective tissues were up to it  (perm damage is possible doing such things with no training if you don’t listen to your body)
    3) I’m guessing neither of you is very overweight ..the more excess lbs the harder it will be on your joints if you aren’t trained. 

    All that said I don’t think it’s really that dangerous to do what you did, at your age, but I would never take painkillers until after the race. You would also need to be willing to quit to avoid permanent damage if something was hurting badly.

    Sitting in a chair drinking beer and eating cheetos is way more dangerous (eventually) ;)

    -paul
    http://50-is-the-new-30.blogspot.com

  • Kmetravel

    Really anyone who gets off the couch and tries it weather training for months or never training at all should deserve a high five.  And if people find it disrespectful, then they are worrying about things that really don’t affect their life.  It like worrying about what type of toilet paper your neighbor is using.  Running in this aspect is an individual sport not a team sport, so it isn’t disrespectful to anyone. If someone wants to run it half ass, well its better then sitting on the couch and eating all day. My opinion of course.

  • Kmetravel

    Who cares who put more effort into something.  And just because some people are ecstatic over a 4 hour or 5 hour time and some would be crying in their beer doesn’t mean either one of those individuals is any lesser of a person then the other.  

  • http://dpcmblog.blogspot.com/2011/08/steps-to-finishing-your-first-marathon.html Deep_patel1996

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  • Stesalcedo

    Andrew… firstly let me just say congratulations on finishing your marathon and in a great time!

    So i am from England and i entered into the Liverpool marathon around 6 months ago giving me a good amount of time to put the miles in on the road. After training for around three months and getting my long runs up to twelve miles i was diagnosed with graves disease and was instructed to stop the running by my doctor. I havent ran at all for the last three months and the marathon is just three weeks away. My doctor now tells me i’m ok to run again and i am desperate to run the marathon?! i am just worried that at 18 miles onwards my legs are just gonna die. Your story is the only one i can find that gives me some inspiration to just DO IT. Thankyou for that

    Steven

  • http://andrewgertig.com Andrew Gertig

    Steven, I’m glad you feel inspired by my story. I am not very familiar with grave’s disease, and would hate for you to hurt yourself on account of my story, but if your doctor says you are cleared to run the marathon and you feel up to it I say go for it. Just don’t do the pain meds part :)

    Thanks,
    Andrew

  • Anonymous

    Cool. I did a 5:45. Took 2 percocets before and walked one minute every five.

  • Julies2ndadd

    I agree.  Not hard to do at all.  I’m 35 and trained for 2 weeks (total of 6 runs, longest being 15 miles) and completed my first marathon in 4:36.  At 22 miles I had to walk and stretch a little, but now that it’s over (2 days later) I feel great and plan on really training for my second one in six months.

  • ChiTown Runner

    Running is supposed to be about your own personal gain, not others.  It is not about how fast you finish, but that you accomplished it as you wished you would.  I would give anyone who ATTEMPTED a marathon credit over those who do nothing.  With that, don’t call yourself a runner or a marathoner… because they actually put in the effort to train.  Give runners that respect, but enjoy yourself!!

    I agree with the post below about runners being jealous.  I could train for years and never run in under 5 hours.  I just will never be that good of a runner.  But that doesn’t make me want to bash those that can, regardless of their training schedule.  Thanks for the advice, I’ll need it for the chicago that I struggled training for due to injury and illness.

  • Kbridges

    You people are such whiners. If you’re so bent out of shape about what these guys did then you’re obviously either insecure about your own running or think you’re a God because your a “runner”. There is no “right” or “wrong” way to do everything. If no one thought outside of the box or went against what everyone else was doing there would be no Apple, no space station and definitely no marathons! . If these guys want to run a race with no training, power to them! What’s the difference between a person who got 4 hours and trained and another who got 4 hours and didn’t? On race day it’s you and the road, your training or lack of was to benefit or hurt YOU! Is someone who only trains twice a week less of a marathoner than someone who trains 6?!! I wouldn’t run a race without training but that’s MY opinion and my decision for whats best for MY body and I’m not about to push it on someone else or spend countless hours bickering online when I could be out running!

  • http://andrewgertig.com Andrew Gertig

    One of the best comments I’ve seen. :)

  • Lnoshaughne

    Wow… I think you may be compensating for something “Fastrunner” 161…. It drives me CRAZY to hear “runners” tearing others accomplishments down in attempt to boost their own.  My husband is an accomplished runner, completing over 65 marathons in the past 15 years including the all the biggies that require qualifiers and I couldn’t be more proud of his accomplishments and dedication.  He is a motivational speaker on “Wellness” and calls everyone that attempts their first steps as his “heroes.” BUT… away from the microphone he has no problem in categorizing runners, joggers, and oh yea… the walkers. He was furious that Al Roker had taken a spot in the New York Marathon, taking a spot of someone that had “earned” it. This ball of irony is why many people are so hesitant to get off the couch. Please “fastrunner161,” go to your A corral and leave us end of the alphabetters alone. Puff up your chest and put your 26.2 mile sticker on the back of your car… I will stay with the back of the pack and marvel at their strength and courage of the individuals that found the courage to take the first step. Remember the story of the tortoise and the hare… slow and steady wins the race.

  • Sanderscarla33

    Hi There, 

    Good for you! I am the same way! I do run marathones with out training I have not run for 2 years now and just yesterday finished half marathon at age 42 go figure out! It is all in your mind!  

  • Sanderscarla33

    Why would you if you never run the distance you just had to train harder and work your ass to get better time and he did not and it does not make you better run than him anyhow. He did finish it and it is a accomplishment. 

  • Robpaige’s Consciousness

    You. Are. An. Idiot.  It’s a marathon.  An experience.  You think of the thousands of people that showed up everyone took it as serious as you do? If only over the top people like you were allowed to run there wouldn’t be half of the number that raced.  Get a grip and don’t cut someone down for setting a goal even if it was a week away.  The more I type the more stupid your comment becomes.  I’m going to have to find all the other comments you’ve made on the internet and make sure you didn’t make a fool out of yourself everywhere else.

  • Robpaige’s Consciousness

    I’m in favor of having to complete an IQ test before being allowed to comment.  That would cut about half of these posts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/vikram.bala Vikram Balasubramanian

    I have run a couple of half marathons without training (2hr 14 best) and when I signed up for my full marathon I realised I had to change my ways and train. I did, sincerely, with a plan, for three weeks – and got injured for my trouble. Now since then I havent trained to protect my injured ITB. I have three weeks and a lot of business travel to fill that gap. So obviously I won’t train from now on either.

    I use your story as an inspiration to hack my way to a marathon finish this December because I have collected money for a charity already and can’t back out this late.

  • runningscared

    Wow I’m about to run my first marathon soon and i havent trained either.  My goal is to finish this race and never give up.  

  • Anonymous

    As someone who has run 8 marathons, a 50 mile ultra marathon, and I God knows how many half-marathons, I say congratulations.

    I ran my first marathon after months of hard training and dedication.  It was one of the signature accomplishments in my life.  However, I wanted more.  Increasing my pace over that kind of distance increased the frequency of injury, so I increased the distance.  That is when I ran my first 50 mile race.  it was my new signature accomplishment.  I still wanted more, though.  I wasn’t going to run more distance because of the time needed to train and I wasn’t going to increase my pace because of injury, so I decided to see how much beer I could drink while running a normal marathon.  My current record is 14, and I almost missed my flight home because of it (I was trashed).

    I’m about 40 years old now, and just finished a Tough Mudder (12 mile run with 25 or so obstacles including getting zapped repeatedly by a cattle fence).  I ran this one cold….no training.

    It’s 17 days before the Austin Marathon.  I haven’t trained and I don’t plan on it, but I’m going to run it anyway.

    After you’ve run a few marathons, you come to realize that the number 26.2 is just a number.  It is not an intimidating wall to be overcome.  It is an event to be enjoyed.  If you slow down your pace, it’s amazing the people you can meet.

    So for all those “competitive runners” out there, I’ll go toe to toe with you after we have 14 beers.  You might still win (although I would wager I’m better at this sort of competition), but I guarantee I will have a BETTER time (as opposed to your better TIME).

    And for all the doctors who are reading this in horror, I would remind them there is more to living than checking off days on a calendar.

  • Viviancolocho

    Wow! I’m so inspired. I’m doing a 5k run in March though nothing compare to your run, this is my first marathon and sure felt not ready. Thanks for your story and surely gave me the push and especially motivation to go for it. Thanks again

  • dudabus

    I love all of the runners who take themselves way too serious and believe hoards of people hanging around bars shooting pool will run a marathon without training and under the influence of 4 advil.  I’ve run the Boston but 4 1/2 hours without training is pretty impressive.  I also like the guy (LuapLeiht1) who decided to start drinking as many beers through his marathons–14 beers is quite the accomplishment and he should be proud too.

  • Bhees 125

    Three whole weeks? That’s not training. That’s the amount of time a competitive runner will *rest* before the race, because they’ve been training hard for 3-4 months before that. (Okay, it’s not resting the way a non-athlete would think of it. You still run, but you taper down your training to a light level in the last 3 weeks leading up to the race.)

    I ran my first marathon without training, a drunken challenge sort of thing. I had run in school 10 years earlier but at this point I was lucky if I ran 4 miles once a week. I finished in 4:57 and was sore for a week.

    Recently I ran a 3:38 marathon after training properly, and went to a party afterwards and felt fine. Big difference.

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  • Martin

    I did the London Marathon in 2000 in 4hrs 1min with a few runs. Longest was 6 miles (which gave me blisters). I was convinced I could do it in 3 1/2hrs with next to no training as I was reasonably fit but didn’t like running much. Totally agree with you, but the mental challenge is probably the worst as however fit you are, when you do run out of energy and hit the wall, you realise the training might have helped a bit.

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